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Old May 03, 2006, 06:44 AM // 06:44   #1
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Guess what, when I first get to know about the assassin class, it suddenly struck me that Assassins are going to be the necro best friends.

Look, now we have a brand new Wammos with lower armour, and in high abundance (at least in the early weeks/months of faction). I mean, what can be better than these assassins for us necro to do our soul reaping? So immediately when I started on the head-start event, I create a ... NECRO

When I started playing the game, I found that anet has a little surprise for me they actually give these assassins the skill "death's charge" FREE !!! Wow, imagine what can be better than a low armour assassin who play like a Wammos? ... An assassin who can teleport himself/herself to the group of enemy.

However there is a side-effect to this ... sometimes they dropped so fast that I could not cast a spell in time and thus could not havest them as my energy bar is full. I sincerely hope that anet can correct this imperfection by giving these assassins a longer life (and thus delaying their drop time).

After I have completed my necro, I hope that I would be in time to create an IWAY warrior. This is too good to be true ......

A true life story from a happy lvl 20 necro and his more than frustrated lvl 20 monk friend who is thinking of quitting faction .... (guess anet cant please everyone )
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Old May 03, 2006, 06:54 AM // 06:54   #2
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Ah, I see you have encountered Assassins who have no idea how to play their class.
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:04 AM // 07:04   #3
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The sad thing is, Assassins who know how to play the class end up just as dead.
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06   #4
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....and a Healing Monk's worst nightmare.






I'm only joking, just to make that clear.

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Old May 03, 2006, 07:11 AM // 07:11   #5
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actually assassins who take the time to learn their class are very resilient. we can chain so many attacks into a devastating combo. apply conditions like no other we can snare. and kite very effectively. good self heals and deaths charge is good too.. thing is you use it when you need a heal not right at the start of a fight when you have full health.

personally i like my assassin i can see him wreaking havoc in the arenas
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:13 AM // 07:13   #6
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What a useless thread. Assasins are just as weak as any other caster or 70 AL target. There's players that use Warrior secondaries with a caster primary and get killed just as easy.
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:14 AM // 07:14   #7
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The sad thing is, Assassins who know how to play the class end up just as dead.
Great, more people spreading [misinformation] like this around so that assassins can't get finish missions because people won't let them into groups and the henchmen are like lobotomy patients.
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:16 AM // 07:16   #8
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What a useless thread. Assasins are just as weak as any other caster or 70 AL target. There's players that use Warrior secondaries with a caster primary and get killed just as easy.
You don't see as many of them. And they don't teleport into the middle of huge clumps of enemies for you.
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:28 AM // 07:28   #9
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The assassin class is difficult for me to work around as a mesmer. I mean I can make them feel like they're winning, but im still getting hit. I die around about the same time they do when I fight them.
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:57 AM // 07:57   #10
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So, once all the "Assassins drop fast" topics and the whole Assasin hype is gone we will get the "Assassins get no love" hype, right?
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:59 AM // 07:59   #11
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So, once all the "Assassins drop fast" topics and the whole Assasin hype is gone we will get the "Assassins get no love" hype, right?
Nah, first another Monk Strike, then Necros complaining that SS is nerfed (it's coming, no denying it), then Rangers saying they get nerfed all the time (Probably Barrage getting higher EN cost and longer Recharge), then Ritualists saying they get no love, and then I'm guessing Assassins...
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Old May 03, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09   #12
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Guess what, when I first get to know about the assassin class, it suddenly struck me that Assassins are going to be the necro best friends.

Look, now we have a brand new Wammos with lower armour, and in high abundance (at least in the early weeks/months of faction). I mean, what can be better than these assassins for us necro to do our soul reaping? So immediately when I started on the head-start event, I create a ... NECRO

When I started playing the game, I found that anet has a little surprise for me they actually give these assassins the skill "death's charge" FREE !!! Wow, imagine what can be better than a low armour assassin who play like a Wammos? ... An assassin who can teleport himself/herself to the group of enemy.

However there is a side-effect to this ... sometimes they dropped so fast that I could not cast a spell in time and thus could not havest them as my energy bar is full. I sincerely hope that anet can correct this imperfection by giving these assassins a longer life (and thus delaying their drop time).

After I have completed my necro, I hope that I would be in time to create an IWAY warrior. This is too good to be true ......

A true life story from a happy lvl 20 necro and his more than frustrated lvl 20 monk friend who is thinking of quitting faction .... (guess anet cant please everyone )
Like any other class Assassins will take time to get used to. But right now there’s an over abundances of Assassins and Ritualist’s, one or two max assassin per-group thing works out great, but you still need your “one and only original warrior Wammos. And of course you have to use your head and think about tactics, other then mind numbing which minion you want to make next, heal, heal and more heal, ouch dragon stomp.

Vizunah Square (Local) was hard, if you haven’t guessed why read the first line, after that things are smooth never had a problem dieing not any more then any other person, and I’ve had no problem getting into a group. Ahh why bother explaining it to you…..

Key words Assassins are not tanks....
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Old May 03, 2006, 08:10 AM // 08:10   #13
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Hmm...assassins the new whammo's....I never knew warriors could shadow step, use enchantments and spells, etc. Most people think of assassins as people who run in, do a combo, then die. If you looked at there skills you'd be pretty surprised.
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Old May 03, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37   #14
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as said earlier in the thread, If you actually take time to learn how to play the class, theres no issue, I did Visunah Square, with henchies, as a lvl 17 assassin, and diddnt die once (I think a couple of henchies did, but thats henchies for you )

an assassin can 'tank' to an extent if required, IF you use the correct skills, as the correct time(s) etc, but they are not meant to tank.... they are meant to run in, hit, do some quick/high damage (using combos) and then duck back out... so shadow step is great, cause they can jump in, hit a few combos, and then dash out, with life to spare....
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Old May 03, 2006, 09:55 AM // 09:55   #15
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Nah, first another Monk Strike, then Necros complaining that SS is nerfed (it's coming, no denying it), then Rangers saying they get nerfed all the time (Probably Barrage getting higher EN cost and longer Recharge), then Ritualists saying they get no love, and then I'm guessing Assassins...
Have we given up on Elementalists?
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Old May 03, 2006, 10:01 AM // 10:01   #16
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The sad thing is, Assassins who know how to play the class end up just as dead.
You clearly do not then.
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Old May 03, 2006, 10:10 AM // 10:10   #17
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Have we given up on Elementalists?
Elementalists don't like to make waves.

...

Unless you're a water ele, of course.
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Old May 03, 2006, 10:23 AM // 10:23   #18
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Haha, guess what I thought when I read that thread title Assassins drop like flies the way most players use them right now...

The Problem at the moment is, that there's 70% Assassins, 20% Ritualists and - with luck - 10% other professions in the new Factions areas. And in most groups I was involved in only Assassins and a Monk (me) - and eventually a Ritualist - didn't work very well

But that may get back to normal once the "new" feeling of the Assassin and the Ritualist wore of a bit. And Assassins really are good in dealing a great amount of damage over a short time and then disappearing again. It just takes some time for a large number of players to figure out that Assassins really are no tanks.

Just my 2 cents
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Old May 03, 2006, 10:25 AM // 10:25   #19
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You're exagerating the situation. A good assassin with Death's Charge, can teleport and kill any caster with a good 4-5 hit combo under 10 seconds.

Personally I use Unsuspecting Strike (First 1/4 health gone), Then Wild Strike (Down to 5/8), Then Horns of the Hox (Down to 4/8 knocked down), Then Falling Spider (Down to 3/8 poisoned), Then Twisted Fangs (Would bring down to 0/8 and cause bleeding+deepwound, but the persons dead by then)

Now I doubt any caster with out blind can counter that, I've taken down monks before they can cast gaurdian on themselves perfectly fine as well. Anyways, Assassins have Temple Strike. Which basically kills casters just by itself. As for tanking, Assassins have flashing blades. Its not really tanking, but it makes them live longer.
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Old May 03, 2006, 11:08 AM // 11:08   #20
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Necros are assassins worst nightmares with Insidious Parasite and Plague Touch. Not forgetting, Shadow of Fear, Faintheartedness, Price of Failure...
Don't get me started on the mesmers too
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